Summary of events
MPs voted through the government’s welfare bill by 335 votes to 260 - a majority of 75 – after a rebel amendment to kill off the bill was defeated easily after concessions over planned Pip cuts (See 19.27).
The work and pensions secretary, Liz Kendall, ruled out resigning in her interview with Chris Mason, the BBC political editor, saying she wanted to carry on despite her bill only passing after multiple U-turns (See 19.51).
After a week of chaos that left the prime minister’s political authority badly damaged, Labour MPs were finally won over by a commitment to shelve plans for deep cuts to personal independence payments (Pip)
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Changes to the universal credit and Pip bill mean no savings for the chancellor in this parliament, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS).
Helen Miller, the deputy director of IFS, said there is a “pronounced rise” in working-age health-related benefits. Spending is rising from £52bn last year and, without reform, is forecast to reach £66bn by 2029–30.
The government’s original reform was set to save £5.5bn in the short run (by 2029–30) and double that in the long run when fully rolled out.
Without reform to personal independence payment, the watered down bill is not expected to deliver any savings over the next four years.
This is because over this period the forecast savings from reducing the universal credit (UC) health element for new claimants (£1.7bn in 2029–30) will be roughly offset by the cost of increasing the UC standard allowance.
This is a government with a majority of 165 that is seemingly unable to reform either pensioner winter fuel payments or working-age disability benefits. That doesn’t bode well for those hoping this government will grasp the nettle and address the deeper, structural challenges facing the UK public finances.
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Scotland’s social justice secretary, Shirley-Anne Somerville, has said the UK government risks creating a “deeply unfair” two-tier system if it presses ahead with plans to push the impact of cuts on to future applicants for disability benefits and that it should abandon the bill completely.
Somerville confirmed that her government had no plans to row back support for disabled people in Scotland.
The UK government needs to stop balancing the books on the backs of some of the most vulnerable people in society. They need to properly listen to the overwhelming criticism their proposals have generated and do the right thing by disabled people by abandoning this bill entirely.
I want to reassure disabled people in Scotland, that the Scottish government will not cut Scotland’s adult disability payment – we will not let disabled people down as the UK government has done.
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Originally, 150,000 unpaid carers stood to lose carer’s allowance at a budget reduction of £500m by 2030, according to the charity Carers UK.
Helen Walker, chief executive of Carers UK, welcomed the concessions regarding Pip.
Unpaid carers will be hugely relieved that the government has recognised the harmful impact the proposed changes to Pip could have on whole families.
Legislating for a system that would be under review would have been entirely in the wrong order.
These proposals have caused untold stress and worry for many thousands of carers. It’s the right decision to ensure that the Timms review of Pip is concluded and that the implications for unpaid carers are known before the government takes any further steps.
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The leader of Reform UK, Nigel Farage, has offered his reaction to the passing of a much changed bill. Speaking on GB News he said that the government is “in big trouble” and suggested Keir Starmer is a “puppet”.
U-turn after U-turn after U-turn, denial of what he said in the speech on immigration, ‘oh, I regret it, I regret it, I hadn’t read it’, a self-admission that he’s a puppet.
Today, to avoid potentially a massive defeat in the House of Commons, a watering down of a bill that renders it almost meaningless. I’m looking at the big picture. This government is in big trouble.
We voted against it, because I won’t lift a finger to help a government that is doing so much damage to our country.
Ruth Curtice, chief executive of the Resolution Foundation thinktank, says the concession announced today means that in the medium term – the relevant period for the chancellor’s fiscal rules – the welfare reforms will now save more or less no money at all. But that does not mean they are totally pointless, she says on Bluesky.
The latest u-turn looks to be removing all PIP changes from the bill. Remaining net savings in the crucial year for fiscal rules of....about zero. Doesn’t mean the bill is nothing though: still very important changes to, and a sensible rebalancing of, universal credit (with savings in future years)
That is all from me for tonight. Morgan Ofori is now taking over.
Charities says disabled people will still lose out from welfare bill, despite Pip reform U-turn
Groups representing the disabled have mixed views on what happened this evening. While Mencap issued a statement welcoming the dropping of the Pip elements of the bill (see 6.43pm), other charities highlight their concerns about what is left in the bill.
Charlotte Gill, head of campaigns and public affairs at the MS Society, said:
The government has been forced to listen to disabled people at the eleventh hour. And that’s thanks to people with MS who have sent thousands of emails, made hundreds of phone calls, and had countless conversations with MPs to make their voices heard.
While we’re relieved that the government are dropping some of their most catastrophic plans for PIP, and committing to a review before any changes go ahead, we still believe this bill risks causing harm to disabled people.
Pushing through cuts to those on Universal Credit who are unable to work is unfair and cruel.
And James Taylor, executive director at disability equality charity Scope, said:
It’s right to consult and engage with disabled people before making sweeping changes to Pip. Changes that would have made hundreds of thousands of claimants worse off. Changes that could have been avoided altogether.
We now need cast-iron confirmation that future reforms will be genuinely co-produced with disabled people, as promised.
However, this bill still includes measures that will strip thousands of pounds in support from disabled people.
Our analysis shows disabled households will face almost £15,000 a year in extra costs by 2030. Under these changes, more than 700,000 future universal credit health claimants would receive on average £3,000 less support each year than claimants do now.
Ed Davey, the Lib Dem leader, issued this statement after the welfare bill passed tonight. He said:
This is no way to run a country.
The government should scrap this failed bill altogether and work cross-party to actually bring down the welfare bill by getting people into work.
There were 42 Labour MPs who voted for the Maskell amendments. But two Labour MPs acted as tellers in the division for the ayes – Clive Lewis and Andy McDonald – and they are not included in the 42, although they were helping them. They both voted against the bill too.
Other Labour MPs who did not vote for the Maskell amendment but who did vote against the bill getting a second reading include Rosena Allin-Khan, Marsha de Cordova, Abtisam Mohamed and Marie Tidball.
The division lists are here.
Kendall claims Labour MPs '100% behind prime minister'
Q: But what is left in the bill?
Kendall claimed there were some “really important changes” to universal credit left in the bill. And the right to try changes were important, she said.
Q: But you made an argument that current welfare spending was unsustainable – and now you’re not going to save any money?
Kendall claimed the measures in the bill would still help to get more people into work, saving the government money.
Q: Haven’t you found out that, even with a whopping majorty, Labour is fundamentally unwilling to reform the welfare state? Your plans are in the skip. They’re dead, they’re buried.
Kendall said reform was important, and Labour was starting to deliver change.
Q: How do you assess the PM’s authority?
Kendall said people are “100% behind a prime minister who secured the first Labour government in 14 years”.
But there are lessons to learn, she said.
Q: What is the key lesson to learn? This has been an unedifying week for the government.
Kendall said welfare reform was always difficult, perhaps particularly for Labour governments.
She said it had been “a bumpy time tonight”, but the party would go forward together.
'Listening is strength in politics' - Kendall brushes off claims multiple welfare bill U-turns have made her position untenable
Chris Mason opened his interview by putting it to Liz Kendall that this process had been shambolic.
Kendall replied:
I wish we had got to this point in a different way, and there are absolutely lessons to learn, but I think it’s really important we’ve passed this bill for second reading. It puts in place some really important reforms to the welfare system.
Q: Is your position tenable? You’ve been humiliated.
Kendall replied:
I think listening is actually a strength in politics, as indeed it is in life, and I’ll continue to listen to colleagues, absolutely.
What was very interesting was how much support there was for the principle of reforming the welfare state, that those who can work should work, but need help to do so, and that we need to protect those who can’t work.
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Kendall rules out resigning after her bill only passes following multiple U-turns branded shambolic
Liz Kendall, the work and pensions secretary, has recorded a pooled interview with Chris Mason, the BBC political editor.
She has ruled out resigning, saying she wants to carry on.
49 Labour MPs voted against welfare bill at second reading, division list shows
The division list for the second vote is now up on the Commons’ website. It shows that 49 Labour MPs voted against.
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On Sky News Sam Coates has been using the Philip Cowley figures (see 11.42am) to show how this rebellion (44 rebels on the first vote) compares with other Labour ones. It is bigger than the worst previous rebellion during Starmer’s premiership, but not as big as the biggest revolt in the first year Tony Blair was in power.
Here is a Guardian tracker showing how MPs voted on the rebel Labour amendment.
After the result of the second vote was announced, Helen Whately, the shadow work and pensions secretary, raised a point of order.
She said this afternoon had been a “shambles”. The bill had been “ripped apart literally in front of our eyes”. Shouldn’t the bill now be withdrawn?
(Of course, the bill was not literally ripped apart – but it was metaphorically ripped apart.)
The deputy Speaker, Nusrat Ghani, said that was not a matter for her.
MPs vote through welfare bill by 335 votes to 260 - majority of 75
The bill has passed by 335 votes to 260 – a majority of 75.
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42 Labour MPs voted for Maskell amendment to kill off welfare bill, division list shows
Here are the numbers of MPs from each party voting for the Rachael Maskell amendment.
Alliance: 1
DUP: 4
Greens: 4
Independents: 10
Labour: 42
Lib Dems: 70
Plaid Cymru: 4
Reform UK: 4
SNP: 9
TUV: 1
UUP: 1
The Conservatives abstained on this vote.
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This is from Jessica Elgot on voting on the Rachael Maskell amendment.
MP says that Farage and Corbyn standing near each other in the yes lobby is helping to focus minds as MPs vote on the Maskell wrecking amendment
The division list for the first vote should be available here.
But it seems to have crashed, and so nothing is coming up now.
MPs are now voting on the bill itself.
Starmer easily wins first vote on welfare bill with 179 majority, as massive climbdown heads off Labour revolt
The government has won this easily. The rebel amendment to kill off the bill has been defeated by 328 votes to 149 – a majority of 179.
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This is from John McDonnell, who former shadow chancellor who is currently suspended from Labour, on Stephen Timms’ response to the question he and Barry Gardner both asked. (See 7.03pm.)
The government concession on setting up the review of PIP conditions has been rendered meaningless by its refusal to guarantee to put the review recommendations in primary legislation. This means they cannot be amended by votes in Parliament. Further undermines trust.
This is from the BBC’s Faisal Islam on social media.
So the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill is not going to have any clauses about actual PIP??
Yup, that’s right.
MPs are now voting on the Rachael Maskell amendment. (See 9.22am.)
Timms declines to guarantee future Pip changes will be in primary legislation so MPs can amend them
Paul Holmes (Con) says the bill was originally meant to save £5bn a year, and that went down to £2.5bn. How much will it save now?
Timms says that will be set out in future in the usual way.
Barry Gardner (Lab) asks again the question John McDonnell asked (see 6.50pm) – will any changes to Pip being made as a result of the Timms review be made in primary legislation or secondary legislation? He says this is important because MPs can amend primary legislation, but not secondary legislation.
Timms says ministers will need to await the outcome of the review before they can answer that.
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Timms says his review of Pip assessment 'not intended to save money'
Peter Lamb (Lab) says he was planning to vote against the bill today. He says he is delighted the Pip plans are being dropped. But he asks for an assurance that the Timms review is not be carried out in “a spending envelope”.
Timms replies:
The review is not intended to save money. That is not the purpose of the review. The review is to get the assessment right and to make sure we’ve got an assessment which will for the future.
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Simon Hoare (Con) says he has never seen a “butchered and filleted by their own sponsoring ministers” in the way this one has been. He puts it to Timms that the bill should be withrawn. It would be better to start again, he says.
Timms disagrees.
Timms says he was impressed by Marie Tidball’s call for a target to narrow the disability employment gap. (See 4.33pm.) He says she made a strong argument, and that is the sort of approach he would like to take forward.
John McDonnell, the suspended Labour MP, asks if the conclusions of the Timms review will be implemented in primary or secondary legislation.
Timms says it will depend what the recommendations are.
Timms winds up debate for government
Stephen Timms, the welfare minister, is winding up for the government now.
Asked to confirm that clause five will be removed from the bill, he says he can confirm that is the case.
And the parallel provisions for Northern Ireland will be taken out too (section 4 of schedule 2).
Welfare bill has now 'more or less disintegrated' after U-turn, say Tories
In the Commons Helen Whately, the shadow work and pensions secretary, was winding up for the Tories. She said the bill had now “more or less disintegrated”.
UPDATE: And in a press release Whately said:
The economic credibility of this government has collapsed. Labour have abandoned their flagship welfare reforms with a Bill which now achieves nothing.
In an act of cowardice, Keir Starmer has put Party before country. He cannot take the tough decisions necessary. And he has landed his Chancellor with another £2 billion blackhole to fill. This is surely the beginning of the end for Rachel Reeves. This matters because failure to act means we will all be left paying the price.
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Steven Swinford, political editor of the Times, says Keir Starmer must have offered his latest compromise because he thought he would lose.
The government has effectively abandoned its flagship welfare reform - the overhaul of PIP disability benefits - entirely
After so much political pain, all the arguments that this was a moral and economic necessity, it’s gone. Just like that
The only conclusion you can reach is that whips believed that the government was going to lose the vote
Leaves Rachel Reeves with another £5billion to find in the Autumn budget, on top of the £1.5billion from the u-turn on winter fuel payments
Mencap, the learning disabilities charity, has welcomed the latest U-turn on the welfare bill. Jon Sparkes, its chief executive, said:
The last-minute change relating to the review Sir Stephen Timms is leading sounds positive and we are pleased that the government has listened.
It is very important that this review is thorough and includes people with a learning disability. Fair and sustainable change to the welfare system will only happen if the people who rely on it are listened to.
Disabled people should not have to pay to fix black holes in the public finances.
How four-point Pip eligibility rule was central to Treasury's plan to save money from welfare changes
This table shows to extent to which the four-point Pip eligibility rule was crucial to the Treasury being able to use the measures in the welfare bill to save money. It is the table in the Treasury’s spring statement document with the scorecard for the savings in the welfare reform package.
Badenoch says Starmer's latest welfare U-turn is 'utter capitulation', leaving bill that's 'pointless'
Kemi Badenoch has accused the government of “utter capitulation”. She says:
This is an utter capitulation. Labour’s welfare bill is now a TOTAL waste of time. It effectively saves £0, helps no one into work, and does NOT control spending.
It’s pointless. They should bin it, do their homework, and come back with something serious. Starmer cannot govern.
In the chamber Ian Lavery (Lab) is speaking now. He says he has been “absolutely amazed” at what has happened this afternoon. It has been “crazy”, he says. Taking out the parts of the bill that have now been dropped, there would only be two pages left, he says.
Labour MPs say welfare bill now 'complete mess', and restate calls for it to be withdrawn
Labour MPs opposed to the welfare bill are again calling for the welfare bill to be abandoned. The shambolic nature of the Timms concession (see 5.40pm) is being cited as a reason why the case for dropping the bill is even stronger.
This is from Nadia Whittome, a leftwinger who has been strongly critical of the bill.
This is a complete mess. The government is promising new changes, new concessions, 90 minutes before MPs vote.
None of this is written down. The Bill we are voting on tonight is unamended.
This is an unacceptable way of making laws. Just pull the Bill.
And this is from Cat Eccles, another critic of the bill.
Minister Timms intervened mid debate to announce he’s pulling Clause 5 (PIP clause) from the Bill at Committee. So why are we still debating and voting?
This isn’t how we make legislation. Pull the Bill.
And this is from Bell Ribeiro-Addy, another leftwinger.
This legislation will have life-altering consequences for disabled people.
Briefing last-minute changes without time to debate, scrutinise and consider the effects shows desperation to rush it through and disregard for those impacted.
Even now, we still have time to scrap it.
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How latest concession means government left with welfare bill that won't affect Pip eligibility
Here is the Commons library briefing on the bill. It explains what all parts of the bill do. All the elements relating to Pip are in clause five, and without clause five, this bill will not affect Pip eligibility – now or in the future.
The DWP may have an aspiration still to impose the four-point rule for Pip eligibility. But it has, in effect, delegated that decision to the Timms review, and if, as it say, that review is going go genuinely be co-produced with disabled people, then it is very hard to see the four-point rule being revived.
And here is the text of the bill itself.
Although this is the bill that will pass tonight, if MPs vote in favour, the Timms announcement means that, with clause five removed, all that will be left will be a bill affecting universal credit.
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After Stephen Timms made his dramatic concession in the Commons, Andy McDonald (Lab) used a point of order to claim that it was now not clear what MPs were voting on.
And Andrew Pakes (Lab), resuming his speech said that, as someone from a party that often debated clause four, he was glad to hear the news about clause five.
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No 10 guts welfare bill in big new concession as minister says Pip cuts planned for 2026 shelved until after Timms review
In the Commons Anna Dixon (Lab) has just intervened to say the Timms review should be brought forward.
Andrew Pakes (Lab), who has the floor, says he agrees. He says he would like to see Duracell batteries inserted into the review.
At this point Stephen Timms, the social security and disability minister, intervenes, to make the concession reported earlier. (See 5.18pm.)
He says:
I want to make this point to [Pakes] that he and others across the house during this debate have raised concerns that the changes to Pip are coming ahead of the conclusions of the review of the assessment that I will be leading.
We have heard those concerns, and that is why I can announce that we are going to remove the clause five from the bill at committee, that we will move straight to the wider review, sometimes referred to as the Timms review, and only make changes to Pip eligibility, activities and descriptors following that review.
The government is committed to concluding the review by the autumn of next year.
That is another big concession. It has two implications.
It means there is a chance that new Pip eligibility rules will not come into force in November 2026. (The government said it wanted the Timms review to report in the autumn of next year, and that it would implement its recommendations as quickly as possible, but legislating for welfare reforms is never quick.)
Much more importantly, it means that the switch to the four-point Pip eligibility rule may never happen at all. It won’t be in the legislation. And there is no guarantee the Timms review will revive the idea – certainly if it is genuinely “co-produced” with disabled people, as the government promises. The four-point rule was the key instrument that was meant to deliver the £2.5bn savings that, this morning, the Treasury was still hoping to achieve. (It was £5bn savings until last week’s concessions.)
This means MPs are set to pass a bill that won’t necessarily deliver anything like the level of cuts originally planned. It is a huge win for those campaigning against it.
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Jessica Elgot and Pippa Crerar point out in their story that the last-minute concession that No 10 is set to approve would be a humiliation for Liz Kendall.
While the move is expected to secure the bill’s second reading, it would be a humiliating climbdown for Liz Kendall, the welfare secretary, who just hours before had told MPs the new four-point threshold would apply from November 2026 and emphasised the need for the government to take its time over the Timms review to get it right.
Steven Swinford, political editor of the Times, has made the same point on social media.
Starmer set to offer Labour MPs further welfare bill concession
Keir Starmer is set to offer Labour backbenchers a further concession over disability benefits in a last-ditch attempt to limit the largest rebellion of his premiership and get his controversial welfare bill over the line, Jessica Elgot and Pippa Crerar report.
Ex-whip Vicky Foxcroft welcomes concessions, but says Timms review must report before Pip changes rolled out
Vicky Foxcroft, who resigned as a Labour whip over the bill, started her speech by saying she welcomed the positive aspects in the bill.
But she had some concerns that still needed to be addressed, she said. She went on:
We need the Timms review to report before the new system is rolled out.
She said disabled people want reform of the benefits system. But they did not want these plans, she said. They should have been consulted from the start.
And she said she wanted to clarify what she meant by co-production. This was a concept that went back to the US civil rights movement, she said. It was developed by by Sherry Arnstein in 1969, she said. She went on:
It should be in place from the start of the process, and all the information should be made available to everyone, and a plan should be agreed together. And there must be the ability to bring in experts. And these experts should be paid for because of their contribution, and treated as valued partners. We should be empowering and upskilling those involved. And I hope that it goes without saying all information should be available in accessible formats, and the valued partners need to be user-led disabled people’s organisations.
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Ayoub Khan, the independent MP, said the welfare bill was “morally indefensible”. He said it was a “calculated assault on some of the most marginalised people in our society”. It continued a pattern of “cuts dressed up as reform”, he said.
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Beth Rigby, political editor of Sky News, is also reporting that a further significant concession is coming from No 10. (See 3.45pm.)
Looks like another major concession on the way as govt looks to get the welfare vote across the line.
Understand (as per @jessicaelgot @kitty_donaldson @singharj) that any changes on PIP eligibility will wait until Timms review (due to report in autumn 2026)
Jeremy Corbyn, the former Labour leader, said the bill was motivated by the need to save £5bn. It would be better if the government abandoned the bill, and waited instead for the outcome of the Timms review.
Labour’s Zubhir Ahmed intervened and said that, if Corbyn voted against the bill, he would be voting against an increase in the standard rate of universal credit, the right to try guarantee and £1bn extra for employment support.
In response, Corbyn said voting against the bill would be a vote for equality. He said different legislation was needed, and that could include the measures mentioned by Ahmed, he implied.
Cat Smith (Lab) said the government was only leaving eight days between second reading and third reading. That meant disabled people did not have enough time to respond to it properly, she said.
Welfare reform should be a co-production with disabled people, she said. It should follow the “nothing about me without me” to decision making, she said.
She said benefits should be paid on the basis of need. But this bill will lead to people being paid different amounts, depending on whent they applied. Smith said she would not be able to look her consituents in the eye and justify voting for this.
No 10 refuses to rule out further concessions on welfare bill
At the afternoon lobby briefing Downing Street refused to rule out further concessions on the welfare bill. Asked about this, a No 10 spokesperson said:
I’m not going to get ahead of the vote. There’s a debate going on in Parliament as we speak, and I’m not going to get ahead of the vote this evening.
There’s been a number of discussions over recent days but as I say I’m just not going to get ahead of the vote this evening.
Marie Tidball (Lab) says she is one of the few visible disabled MPs in parliament. She recalls being terrified during Covid, thinking of what would happen if she caught coronavirus, and what effect this would have on her toddler. She says “sobbed deeply”, and thought of the impact Covid would have on disabled people. In the first wave, they died in large numbers, she says.
She will vote against the bill, she says.
The concessions are significant, she says. But they will still cut Pip for new payments, and push 150,000 people into poverty. She goes on:
I cannot accept this, nor a proposed point system under current descriptors, which would exclude eligibility for those who cannot put on their underwear, prosthetic limbs or shoes without support.
She says, if the bill passes tonight, she will look for further assurances if she is going to vote for it at third reading.
First, the Timms review, “must not be performative”.
Second, she says she wants the “sequencing” to change. She wants to report before the changes planned for November 2026 come into effect, so they are determined by what the review concludes. The government must consult with disabled people over the summer.
And, third, there must be “a clear target for closing the disability employment gap”.
She also says disabled people should not view the Tories voting against the bill today as a sign of solidarity. The Tories should be” hanging their heads in shame” at their failure to help the disabled, she says.
Richard Burgon (Lab) said the government should go “back to the drawing board” and come up with a bill acceptable to disabled people. He said there was no need for the government to rush this through now.
If this were a free vote, then it would be hard to find many Labour MPs at all who were going to vote for it.
This is a matter of conscience, and we need to be clear what we’re comparing here when we decide how to vote tonight.
We’re not comparing the bill as the government intended, with the bill as is promised.
What we should be comparing is the situation of disabled people across the country as it is now, and the situation of disabled people in the country which will come to pass if this bill is passed.
Burgon is one of the Labour MPs who have signed the new reasoned amendment, tabled by Rachael Maskell.
Labour’s Marsha de Cordova told MPs that the last government left “gaping holes” in the welfare system. She said, as somone living with a disability (she is registered blind), she knew the impact this bill would have. The plans should not be rushed, she said, because they would have a negative impact.
UPDATE: De Cordova said:
We know that it will potentially create a two-tier system, indeed a possible three-tier system. It is not me that is saying that, it’s the experts, the many organisations that have been providing us with briefings, being here and providing briefings for members from across this house.
By imposing that four-point descriptor, [the bill] will mean many of them will not be able to get that support. Someone like myself who has sight loss, if they lose their sight in two years time, they potentially couldn’t get the support that is needed. That is unfair and it is unjust …
We cannot rush through these plans and these changes, because they will lead to a negative impact. We do not want to see this Labour government, this progressive Labour government that wants to bring about change, break down barriers, and create opportunities for people, end up leaving disabled people worse off.
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Outside the House of Parliament campaigners have been protesting against the bill. This is from Disability Rights UK, one of the groups campaigning.
Reporting live from the protest outside Parliament💥
— Disability Rights UK (@DisRightsUK) July 1, 2025
Disabled lives should never be up for debate - we are not a financial loophole to be closed and we refuse to be silenced! #WelfareNotWarfare pic.twitter.com/f9faJn464a
Meg Hillier urges Labour MPs to 'bank' concessions, back government and continue to fight for disabled people
Meg Hillier, the Labour chair of the Commons Treasury committee who tabled the original reasoned amendment to kill off the bill, but who has been won over buy the concessions, said that a week ago people currently getting Pip were worried that they could lose their benefit when they get reassessed. As a result of the government’s changes, that threat has been lifted, she said.
And she said the co-production of the Timms review with disabled people could lead to “profound change”.
She urged colleagues to back the government.
I would always rather see a Labour government. Divided parties don’t hold power, divided parties don’t hold government.
If we want to see our values played out in this country, I think we need to vote for this today.
There is still a lot to do, the Timms review to take place, but major changes were made last week that have significantly altered this bill in a short space of time.
I think we bank that and continue to fight with the passion that members have demonstrated today for the rights of disabled people.
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Tories criticise Reform UK for voting against welfare bill - even though they are voting against it too
Richard Tice, the Reform UK deputy leader, has said he is voting against the welfare bill.
Confusingly, the Conservatives have criticised Reform for this – even though they are also voting against the bill.
In a statement issued by CCHQ, Mel Stride, the shadow chancellor, said:
Voting against Labour’s chaotic welfare proposals is no substitute for a proper plan for welfare reform.
Reform have shown they are simply not serious about getting the welfare bill down. Their policy of scrapping the two-child limit would cost taxpayers £3.5bn a year.
Farage’s fantasy economics will leave hardworking families paying the price.
Ministers said to be close to offering further concession to Labour rebels, with crunch vote due in just over 3 hours
Keir Starmer has approved a further concession to the Labour rebels, Jessica Elgot reports on Bluesky.
NEW - I understand another concession to rebel MPs is possible to shore up the welfare bill.
Likely to be linked to concerns around the Timms review which is one of the key remaining issues MPs have.
Still major anxiety about this bill, especially with abstentions
Stephen Timms, the social security and disability minister, is winding up the debate. If there is a further concession before the vote, that is when it will be announced.
Arj Singh from the i has heard something similar. He has posted this.
🚨Exc: ANOTHER welfare concession is being discussed with Labour rebel MPs including in crisis talks with Angela Rayner
Two Labour MPs say a plan to change the eligibility criteria for PIP may be delayed until after Timms review
The Liberal Democrats’ Ian Sollom says the Lib Dems are voting against the changes because of the impact they will have on disabled people. He mentions a young, autistic constituent who is progressing into work through the Switch Now programme. But he has had his Pip cut, and who now struggles to eat.
Sollom says the government should let the Timms review conclude before it goes ahead with changes to the system.
Labour's Rebecca Long-Bailey says there are 'endless' alternative ways of raising money, such as wealth tax
Rebecca Long-Bailey, who was runner up in the leadership contest won by Keir Starmer,
She says countries are judged by how they treat the most vulnerable.
We all know the famous quote, ‘The true measure of any society can be found by how it treats its most vulnerable members.’ It’s a litmus test, really, for the morality and integrity of our country’s values.
Sadly, in recent years, the United Nations has already twice reported on the conditions for disabled people in the UK, finding that there were grave and systematic violations of human rights, and sadly, the bill as it stands today will worsen this situation.
She says the welfare system needs reform. But these proposals have not been subject to proper consultation, she says. And she says there are alternative ways of finding the money.
The sad thing is, is that there are alternatives: introduce higher taxes on extreme wealth; end the stealth subsidies for banks; tax gambling fairly and properly. The list of alternatives is endless.
She ends urging ministers to “pull back from the brink now before it’s too late”.
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Several MPs now – opposition and Labour – have argued that one problem with the bill is that it is primarily motivated by the need to save money, not by the need to get more people into work.
The New Economics Foundation, a leftwing thinktank, has made the same case in its statement on the bill.
Dan Carden (Lab) said. he wanted welfare reform. But he said these plans were based on the need to save money.
I have been frustrated that ministers have continued to say that this bill is rooted in fairness. Its origins came about, as far as my recollection goes, as a £5bn cut from Treasury, and I think that has marred the whole situation moving forward, and the political mess that it has unleashed is the result of a lack of a clear purpose.
The Lib Dem MP Tom Morrison said that MPs came to the Commons “to fight for the most marginal and vulnerable”. If they voted for this bill, they would be letting these people down, he said.
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Emma Lewell (Lab) started her speech by saying she was sad Labour has ended up in this place.
She said she could not understand why a Labour government was not imposing employment support in place first, before cutting benefits.
And she said she was worried that the Timms review looked as if its results were '“predetermined”.
She went on:
The north-east region has the highest number of disabled people in England, and the number of people searching for work outpaces,the number of available jobs. How on earth will cutting the universal credit health element incentivise those people to go out and find a job that doesn’t even exist.
All this was being done to save £2.5bn, she said. But that money could be better found elsewhere.
She said if MPs voted for this, their constituents would never forgive them.
I have beefed up the post at 2.27pm with more quotes from Kemi Badenoch’s speech. You may need to refresh the page to get the update to appear.
Abrahams says the bill is a “dog’s breakfast”.
But she says she thinks there are amendments that can improve the bill.
And she urges the government to drop the clauses in the bill that would impose a four-point rule on future Pip claimants.
(That means they would only get the daily living part of Pip if they score at least four points on one daily living descriptor. Someone needing help with washing their lower body, which currently scores only two points, would not qualify on this particular skill.)
UPDATE: Abrahams said:
If so, why are we saying that the outcome of that review and the new Pip assessment is pre-determined at four points?
And therein lies the problem – most of us are aware that the dog’s breakfast of this bill is being driven by the need to get four points to the OBR to enable it to be scored for the budget.
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Graham Stuart (Con) intervenes. He claims three million disabled people entered the labour market under the last government. He asks Abrahams if she is worried the measures in the bill will stop that happening in future.
Abrahams says they have to stop that happening.
Debbie Abrahams, the Labour chair of the work and pensions committee, is speaking now.
She says welfare cuts can have “devastating consequences”. She goes on:
Too many people relying on social security support to survive have died through suicide, starvation and other circumstances exacerbated by their poverty.
Lib Dems claim two-tier welfare 'unBritish', and it's 'Orwellian' for some disabled people to be 'more equal than others'
Lindsay Hoyle calls Steve Darling, the Lib Dem work and pensions spokesperson. And he said that, after Darling has finished, he will impose a six-minute limit on on speeches.
Darling says the Lib Dems are supporting the Maskell amendment.
He says some of the comments from Labour high command about the bill, such as Keir Starmer’s reference to “noises off”, have been concerning.
And he says it is “shameful” the way the bill is being rushed through. “We all know that rushed bills are poor bills,” he says.
He says he is particularly concerned that the bill will create a “two-tier system”, with existing claimants getting more generous benefits than new claimants.
This two-tier approach to this system is wrong, and I and the Liberal Democrats have grave concerns that this is unBritish, it’s unjust …
We’ve heard from the minister saying it’s been done before. But that doesn’t make it right. It is almost Orwellian that we will be having a system where in our law, we say that all disabled people are equal, but some are more equal than others.
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Maskell says even at this 11th hour she would still ask the government to withdraw the bill.
She says there should be a proper consultation instead.
There is a reason why we are a dystopian state of excessive wealth and abject poverty. It is because governments focus on what they value most, and for these [disabled] people, they never get the attention.
She says disabled people want reform. But not by this bill.
She ends:
As Nelson Mandela said, may your choices reflect your hopes, not your fears.
'I cannot cross by on the other side' - Rachael Maskell says she can't ignore what 'Dickensian' cuts will do for disabled
Rachael Maskell, the Labour MP who has tabled the rebel amendment, is speaking now.
She says 138 deaf and disabled people’s organisations have backed the reasoned amendments that would kill the bill.
She recalls a constituent visiting her, with his young daughter. He could not work because of his mental health condition. He said, if is benefits were cut, “it would be better that I wasn’t here”.
She says people with fluctuating conditions are particularly worried.
(Liz Kendall tried to address this point earlier – see 2.01pm.) She goes on:
These Dickensian cuts belong to a different era and a different party.
They are far from what this Labour party is for – a party to protect the poor, as is my purpose for I am my brother’s keeper, these are my constituents, my neighbours, my community, my responsibility, and I cannot cross by on the other side for one, let alone for the 150,000 who will be pushed further into poverty.
Badenoch says welfare bill is 'rushed attempt to plug chancellor's fiscal hole'
Kemi Badenoch, the Conservative leader, is responding for her party.
She started by saying
We are staring down the barrel of a crisis that no serious government can ignore. The welfare system no longer works as it should. What was once a safety net has become a trap, a system designed to protect the most vulnerable is now encouraging dependency and dragging this country into deeper debt.
She accused Liz Kendall of perpetrating the “fiction that all of this was caused by the last government”.
The last government reformed welfare by introducing universal credit, she said.
UPDATE: Badenoch said:
By 2030, on this government’s spending plans, we will hit £100bn on health and disability benefits alone, that is more than what we spend on defence, and this should make everyone in this House stop and think, because this bill does nothing to fix that problem, and that is why we cannot support it.
The Conservative party are the only party in this house urging restraint, and unless this house acts … they will bankrupt our children. They will bury the next generation under a mountain of borrowing and debt, and they will do it, not because we had no choice, but because they lacked the courage to choose.
A fundamental and serious programme to reform our welfare system is required, and this bill is not it. This bill is a fudge, and I feel sorry for [Kendall], she looks as if she’s being tortured.
We all know why this is happening, this is a rushed attempt to plug the chancellor’s fiscal hole. It is driven not by principle but by panic. The changes were forced through not because they get more people into work, but because someone in 11 Downing Street made a mistake.
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Kendall says, when Timms review Pip rules kick in, claimants can seek reassessment if they think that would help
Kendall says the government wants to complete the Timms review by next autumn. And after that its recommendations will be implemented “as soon as is practically possible via primary or secondary legislation”.
And she says that, once those recommendations are in place, any people already getting Pip can ask for a reassessment.
(That means, if the Timms rules are more generous than the rules coming in in November 2026, people can migrate to the Timms rules by asking for a review of their case. This point in part addresses the “three-tier system” claim made yesterday.)
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Esther McVey, a former Tory work and pensions secretary, says it is morally unacceptable for the government to treat claimants differently depending on when they claim. And has the government taken legal advice about whether this is lawful.
Kendall says this is what happened under the Tories.
Kendall confirms existing Pip claimants will be reassessed under current rules, even after November 2026
Kendall confirms that the government has abandoned the original plans to apply the new Pip eligibility rules to existing claimants.
Clive Betts (Lab) asks why the government is changing the eligility rules in November 2026, when the Timms review of the Pip assessment may not have finished.
Kendall says she will cover that in a moment.
Toby Perkins (Lab) asks Kendall to give more detail of the Timms review.
Kendall says it will be co-produced with disabled people. She says she has been a longstanding champion of co-production.
She says protecting existing claimants, while changing the rules in future, “strikes the right balance”.
She says any existing Pip claimant will be reassessed under the currrent rules wheneveer their claim is reviewed.
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Kendall is talking about the detail of the bill, starting with clauses 1 to 4.
She says the government will deliver the first sustained, above inflation rise to the standard rate of universal credit.
This will benefit 6.7m households, she says.
Kendall says the government is bringing forward an extra £300m employment support for sick and disabled people, on top of the £1bn in support previously announced.
Kendall says Pip claimants with fluctuating conditions could be treated as being so disabled they can never return to work
In response to an intervention from Jim Shannon, a DUP MP, Kendall says that, even if a Pip claimant has a fluctuating condition, they can still qualify as being covered by the severe conditions criteria, which applies to people whose disability is so bad they can never go back to work. Under the bill, people in this group will not face regular reassessments.
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Kendall says government will publish updated impact assessments, showing positive effect of employment schemes
Polly Billington (Lab) intervenes, asking about the poverty figures published yesterday. They do not take into account the impact of employment measures. Will the government publish a fresh assessment taking into account the impact those programmes will have.
Kendall says there is evidence that the government’s employment programmes work. She says before the committee stage next Wednesday she publish “further updated impact assessments … spelling this out in more detail”.
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A Tory MP asks Kendall why the DWP’s own figures show the bill will put an extra 150,000 into poverty.
Kendall says that shows chutzpah from the Tories, given they put 900,000 more children into poverty.
Liz Kendall opens debate on UC and Pip bill
Liz Kendall, the work and pensions secretary, is opening the debate.
She starts by making the case for getting more sick and disabled people back into work.
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Speaker confirms that MPs will get vote on rebel Labour amendment intended to kill off bill
The debate on the UC and Pip bill – or welfare bill, as some are calling it – is starting.
Lindsay Hoyle says he has selected the reasoned amendment tabled by Rachael Maskell.
That means it will be put to a vote at 7pm.
If it passes, the bill will fall.
If government MPs vote it down, there will then be a vote on the main motion, that the bill gets a second reading.
Starmer defends government's record at cabinet
Keir Starmer has defended his government’s record over its first year in office at cabinet, PA Media reports. PA says:
The prime minister insisted at a meeting of senior ministers that his team could look back with a “real sense of pride and achievement” as the 5 July anniversary of his first year in office nears.
The government’s work has focused on giving working people a “chance to thrive, not just survive”, a Downing Street spokesperson said, as Labour backbenchers continue to threaten a rebellion over welfare reforms they insist will have a negative impact on disabled people.
The welfare reform bill will have its first airing in the Commons today and some Labour backbenchers continue to say they will vote to halt the legislation, after a much larger rebellion was quelled by ministers last week.
Starmer opened the cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning by telling senior ministers the welfare reforms are “designed to help those who can work into employment and ensure dignity and security for those who can’t work”, a No 10 spokesperson said.
“He then reflected on the last year in office, saying we could all rightly look back with a real sense of pride and achievement,” the spokesperson added.
No 10 pointed to the three trade deals struck with India, the US, and the EU, the extra investment in the spending review, and a cut in NHS waiting lists among the government’s achievements one year on.
The spokesperson added: “He said the government’s work is all designed and focused on improving the lives of working people and giving them the chance to thrive, not just survive, and the government should be proud of those achievements as a team.”
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Kemi Badenoch is going to respond to Liz Kendall in the second reading debate, not Helen Whately, the shadow work and pensions secretary, James Heale from the Spectator reports on Bluesky.
Understand that Kemi Badenoch will be doing the opening speech to the welfare bill debate for the Opposition in the Commons today
This is something that Badenoch has done before on big parliamentary occasions. You could view it as leading from the front, or you might view it as the response of a leader concerned by repeated reports suggesting her party will replace her within the next year or so.
What happens next to UC and Pip bill if it passes tonight?
In the comments some readers have been asking about the timetable for the passage of the bill. Someone posted this.
Some who’ll vote today have made it clear they won’t oppose unless the committee stage doesn’t respond to concerns. A rushed third reading is unlikely. If the Lords are clever and send back mild amendments delaying minor parts of it the government could be in trouble if they rush late votes.
But in fact a rushed third reading is what is exactly what is going to happen. The government has announced that, after tonight’s second reading (assuming it passes), the remaining stages of the bill (committee of the whole house and third reading) will happen on Wednesday next week.
After that, the bill will go to the Lords. But the bill has been designated as a “money bill”, and that means peers are supposed to fast-track it, without trying to re-write it. That is because of the convention that the Commons has total primacy over financial legislation.
This means there is little or no scope for parliamentarians to amend the bill after today – beyond the amendments that the government has already said it will pass next Wednesday to implment the concessions announced last week.
Voters opposed to welfare cuts, but more split on whether disability benefits should cover mental health conditions, poll suggests
YouGov has published some new polling on the government’s sickness and disability benefit cuts. It was carried out on Thursday and Friday last week, with the polling starting before the government’s U-turn was announced.
Overall, people opposed the cuts by 40% to 26%. Only Conservative supporters were in favour – even though in parliament the Tories are voting against.
People are particularly opposed to cuts to benefits for disabled people unable to work, the poll suggests.
But the poll also suggests that the public are divided over whether people should be able to claim disability benefits for mental health conditions. The rise in mental health-related claims accounts for more than half the increase in disability claims, research shows.
YouGov found 44% of people generally or wholly opposed to these claims being allowed, with 49% generally or wholly in favour.
The government is hoping to persuade Labour rebels to back the UC and Pip bill partly by stressing the importance of the review of the Pip assessment being carried out by Stephen Timms, the social security and disability minister. If you are looking for an explanation of why the Pip assessment causes so much worry for claimants, there is a good account in Ed Davey’s new book, Why I Care. Davey says:
Those without a disability would be astonished if they knew what the benefits process is actually like. You might have reams of evidence, from specialist doctors who have known you for years and understand your condition inside out, but still a health professional from those private companies who assess Pip eligibility will do a formal DWP assessment, and may fail you despite medical evidence that you are eligible.
These health professionals assessing for Pip are qualified, to a point - they might have a nursing degree or occupational therapy training - but they’re not specialists. They have a broad set of criteria and a huge amount of discretion. They might watch you mash a banana and decide that means you can prepare food. They might decide your hair looks nice or you’re well presented, and tick ‘can dress and undress’, ignoring the fact that a loved one helped you, or maybe you spent three hours getting ready that morning. Life just isn’t that straightforward. If you have a chronic pain condition, there are many tasks you could perform for 20 minutes but that might wipe you out for the next three days.
We need a mature debate about how best to establish the extent of someone’s disability at the same time as offering a range of support to help those who can work into work. The problem with the actions the Labour government has taken in spring 2025 is that they are clearly a smokescreen for dangerous cuts. The effect has been to generate a huge amount of fear and anxiety in people who may not actually be affected.
Davey, the Lib Dem leader, has been a carer for most of his life, first when he was a teenager for his dying mother and now for his severely disabled son. In his book he writes about movingly about unpaid care, or what he calls family care, as well as fleshing out the contours of what a reformed care system would look like. It’s a good read. The Guardian wrote more about it here.
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Reeves insists government committed to cutting number of sick and disabled people in poverty
Rachel Reeves, the chancellor, has defended the government’s record on support for sick and disabled people.
Speaking during Treasury questions in response to a question from Rachael Maskell, who has tabled what is now the Labour reasoned amendment to kill off the bill (see 9.08am and 9.22am), Reeves said:
The government is committed to ensuring that there are fewer sick and disabled people in poverty by helping them into work and getting them off NHS waiting lists.
That is why at the spring statement, we announced the largest investment in employment support in at least a generation. The government has already taken action to tackle poverty including with the fair repayment rate, which lowers the cap on deductions in universal credit.
And we’ve increased the national living wage by 6.7%.
Beyond this, we’re investing to reduce poverty by expanding free school meals, investing in a £1bn settlement for crisis support, and we’ll be setting out our child poverty strategy in the autumn. We’ve invested £29bn in reducing NHS waiting lists, and since taking office, there are 385,000 more people in work.
Rachel Reeves is taking Treasury questions in the Commons until 12.30pm. At that point Jonathan Reynolds, business secretary, will make a statement on his plans for a review of parental leave. That means the debate on the UC and Pip bill will start around 1.30pm. And it will run until 7pm.
Will welfare bill go through? Pippa Crerar on latest state of play
This is from Pippa Crerar, the Guardian’s political editor, with her latest take on the state of play ahead of the start of the debate on the UC and Pip bill.
Meg Hillier, who tabled the original wrecking amendment to welfare bill, confirms she’ll now vote for it.
“I’ve not always been happy about how No 10 has engaged with MPs in general, but on this they acted in good faith: listened, made an offer and honoured it,” she tells @guardian
Her view reflects that of a chunk of former rebels, while others say they’ll hold their noses to back it at second reading, and try to tweak at later stages.
Of those who’ve already decided to vote against, around 40 have signed Rachel Maskell’s new amendment. Rebel leaders say others are expected to join them in voting lobbies, but not to sign.
But many MPs are yet to make up their minds, and want to hear what Liz Kendall has to say today, after despatch box appearance y’day which made things worse.
Some of them are considering abstaining - which could upend the parliamentary maths. But they’re haunted by criticism of Labour MP who followed Harriet Harman’s whip in 2015 and didn’t vote against Tory welfare bill (they abstained).
“People are in turmoil,” one Labour MP tells me. At this stage, it feels like the government will get its welfare bill through second reading. Just. But it’s not in the bag and today will make all the difference.
Here is a Westminster creature associated with cunning, guile and ruthlessness. And there is a fox in the picture too, being sized up by the government chief whip, Alan Campbell, as he left Downing Street after cabinet this morning.
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Will Starmer's rebellion over plans to cut sickness benefit match what happened when Blair tried the same in 1999?
The vote tonight is likely to set some sort of record – if only for the biggest parliamentary rebellion during Keir Starmer’s first year in office. Philip Cowley, the politics professor and expert on Commons voting, has compiled this list of previous benchmarks to provide some benchmarks against which tonight’s revolt can be judged. He says:
16 – is the largest backbench rebellion Starmer’s whips have seen so far, earlier this month during the passage of the planning and infrastructure bill.
47 – was the largest rebellion in Tony Blair’s first year, over lone parent benefit.
67 – was the largest rebellion in Tony Blair’s first parliament, over incapacity benefit.
72 – is the largest rebellion by Labour MP at the second reading of their governments’ bills, a record shared by votes in 1947 (national service) and 2004 (university fees)
91 – is both the largest rebellion in the first year of any government since the war (a 1975 vote over the civil list) and the largest rebellion by government MPs at the second reading of any bill since 1945 (House of Lords reform, in 2012)
139 – is the largest backbench rebellion of any governing party since the Corn Laws (Iraq, 2003)
In terms of subject matter, the Blair-era revolts over incapacity benefit reform were closest to what is happening today. Incapacity benefit was a sickness benefit that was replaced by employment and support allowance, which now for some claimants has been replaced by universal credit – covered by today’s bill. Here is the Guardian report of the vote where 67 Labour MPs rebelled against Tony Blair in May 1999.
That revolt carried on into the autumn of 1999. Here is another report from the time about Blair’s efforts to reform incapacity benefit. You will see that a lot of the arguments have echoes of what is happening today.
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Compass, the leftwing group urging Labour to be more pluralistic, has put out a statement condemning the UC and Pip bill. Its director, Neal Lawson, said:
If your own friends are telling you to put the brakes on, then something has clearly gone wrong. Despite the government’s line, this legislation does not advance Labour values. It is fundamentally at odds with them, and with the views of the mainstream of the party and civil society.”
MPs from across the House, and especially the Labour side, must back Rachael Maskell’s reasoned amendment. This bill’s creation of a three-tiered social security system would condemn thousands to poverty and could lose Labour the next election.
Ellen Morrison is the representative for disabled Labour members on the party’s national executive committee. In an article for LabourList, she says the process leading up to today’s vote on the UC and Pip bill has been a “complete disaster” and she urges MPs to vote it down. She says:
A bill of this magnitude should have been co-produced with disabled people and our organisations from the very start.
Now, ministers scramble to promise ‘consultation’ as one small part of the process. That is too little, too late. Co-production is not a rushed tick-box exercise tagged onto legislation already steaming through Parliament. It means disabled people shaping the system at every step – not just commenting on the detail of changes already baked in.
Importantly, it is not appropriate for MPs to vote on something so rushed, without all the information available. The full impact of these policies – particularly the recent ‘concessions’ – needs sufficient time for scrutiny. That takes far longer than a weekend to consider.
One of the concessions offered by the government to Labour rebels opposed to the UC and Pip bill was the publication of the terms of reference for the review of the Pip assessment process it promised in March. These implied the review will be more extensive than originally thought. And it will be “co-produced” with disabled people, the government said.
But groups representing the disabled are sceptical. Six of them –Disabled People Against Cuts, Mad Youth Organise, Disability Rights UK, National Survivor User Network, Crips Against Cuts and Taking the PIP – have issued a joint statement urging MPs to reject the bill. They say:
After being forced to commit to several so-called “concessions” to their welfare bill, the government is now desperately trying to make these cruel cuts more palatable by pointing to a forthcoming review of the Pip process, which they say will be “co-produced” with disabled people and organisations.
We refuse to see the language of co-production being co-opted – as is often the case – to describe the involvement of people with lived experience in policy and service design without giving us any real power to influence outcomes. The government have made it very clear that they are intent on slashing the support that so many disabled people rely on to work and live independently, no matter how many disabled people tell them what a harmful policy this will be.
Ministers launch review of UK parental leave and pay to ‘reset system’
Ministers have launched a review of parental leave and pay as Labour considers ways to make paternity leave and unpaid parental leave day-one rights, Aletha Adu reports.
Commenting on the review this morning, Jonathan Reynolds, the business secretary, said:
It’s been decades since there’s been a comprehensive review of parental leave in the UK. I recognise it’s got to be proportionate. We’ve got to have the business voice as part of that, but I think what we have at the minute, there are eight different types of parental leave – it’s confusing, even for businesses. They don’t know what they should be offering or what they need to be doing.
Kemi Badenoch has confirmed that the Conservative party will vote against the UC and Pip bill tonight. She posted this on social media last night.
The welfare budget’s spiralling-from £40bn pre-Covid to £100bn by 2030.
We challenged Labour to cut spending, get people into work & rule out tax rises. Starmer has failed on all counts, and the welfare bill is still set to rise.
We’re voting against his Welfare Bill tomorrow.
The Tories were always expected to vote against. They said they would support the bill if it met three conditions but since two of these were ones that Labour would not agree to (cutting welfare spending overall, and ruling out tax rises in the budget), the offer of support was never very sincere.
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Jonathan Reynolds, the business secretary, was in the TV and radio studios this morning defending the welfare bill. This is what he said to BBC Breakfast about why Labour MPs should back the government.
I simply ask colleagues to read the proposals, compare them to what we have, and I think they’re genuinely better. I absolutely do believe that they protect the most vulnerable people, which is exactly what people, I think, wanted from these reforms. They recognise we’re spending a lot of money and no one’s happy with the existing system, and that we can make those improvements and how the system works in the here and now and for the future are improved by these proposals.
I’ll also say, look, if you, if you ignore these difficult issues, I know they’re difficult for colleagues, just think back to where the Conservative party was who didn’t do anything. We need to reform the system.
Leading Labour rebel backs welfare bill amid sustained defiance
Downing Street has “listened” and “honoured” the promises it made on changes to the welfare bill, one of the key rebels, Meg Hillier, has said, saying she would vote for the bill later today. Jessica Elgot has the story.
Text of Rachael Maskell's reasoned amendment backed by rebel Labour MPs to kill off welfare bill
Here is the full text of Rachael Maskell’s reasoned amendment to kill the UC and Pip bill (see 9.08am), which has been signed by 39 Labour MPs.
That this house, whilst noting the need for the reform of the social security system, and agreeing with the government’s principles for providing support to people into work and protecting people who cannot work, declines to give a second reading to the universal credit and personal independent payment bill because its provisions have not been subject to a formal consultation with disabled people, or co-produced with them, or their carers; because the Office for Budget Responsibility is not due to publish its analysis of the employment impact of these reforms until the autumn of 2025; because the majority of the additional employment support funding will not be in place until the end of the decade; because while acknowledging protection for current claimants, the government has yet to produce its own impact assessment on the impact of future claimants of personal independence payment (Pip) and universal credit limited capability for work and related activity and the number of people, including children, who will fall into poverty or experience worsening mental or physical health as a result, nor how many carers will lose carers allowance; because the government has not published an assessment of the impact of these reforms on health or care needs; and because the government is still awaiting the findings of the minister for social security and disability’s review into the assessment for Pip and Sir Charlie Mayfield’s independent review into the role of employers and government in boosting the employment of disabled people and people with long-term health conditions.
The Liberals Democrats, the SNP, the Greens and the Independent Alliance have also tabled their own reasoned amendments against the bill. They are on the order paper.
Starmer risks defeat on welfare bill as 39 Labour MPs sign up to kill it off, with 'loads more' set to join them, rebel says
Good morning. Keir Starmer faces the toughest Commons challenge of his premiership this evening when MPs vote on the universal credit (UC) and personal independence payment (Pip) bill with all commentators confident he will fact a big revolt. He is expected to win – but, on this point, the Westminster commentariat isn’t 100% confident; it looks very tight.
Governments almost never lose votes and there are good reasons for this. One is that they normally have a majority. (Starmer’s working majority is 165.) But the main reason is that the one person who normally has the best intelligence as to how the vote will go is the government chief whip (Alan Campbell in this administration) and if the chief whip isn’t confident that they have the numbers, ministers will offer last-minute concessions. Starmer has already offered concessions worth around £3.3bn on this bill, but there’s a good chance we might get more during the debate – perhaps relating to when the new Pip rules recommended by the Stephen Timms review next year will start applying.
So Starmer should win. But he has not won yet, and this morning there is fresh evidence that it is going to be very close.
Meg Hillier, the Labour chair of the Treasury committee, has withdrawn the reasoned amendment to kill the bill that was signed by more than 120 Labour MPs. But overnight Rachael Maskell has tabled another, very similar reasoned amendment that would have the same effect. It has been signed by 39 Labour MPs – not enough to overturn Starmer’s majority on their own – but in an interview on BBC Breakfast this morning she claimed that “loads more” Labour MPs supported her. When it was put to her that 39 Labour MPs was not enough, she replied:
There are loads more, loads more … I engaged with so many people yesterday that were saying, ‘I’m not signing a reasoned amendment, but I am voting down the bill.’
There is no guarantee that Maskell’s reasoned amendment will be called. If the Conservative party had tabled one, that would normally have taken precedent, but they haven’t. The Speaker, Lindsay Hoyle, could decide to call none of the reasoned amendment, and just go straight to a yes/no vote on the bill. But that would not make much difference, because all the Labour MPs who would vote for Maskell’s amendment would presumably vote against the bill too.
This morning Sam Coates, the Sky News deputy political editor, told his Politics at Sam and Anne’s podcast that one of the rebels told him last night that they expected 68 Labour MPs to vote against the bill, with 30/40 abstentions. Coates said 68 votes against, and 30 abstentions, would wipe out Starmer’s majority by one. That was not necessarily the expected outcome, Coates said, because things could change during the day.
And in their London Playbook briefing for Politico, Sam Blewett and Bethany Dawson report on this exchange with a Labour official.
Cool heads are not prevailing: One Labour official texted POLITICO’s Dan Bloom last night: “The heat has clearly gotten to the PLP — who are about to shoot themselves in the head and then attempt to blame the same people who got them elected for blood being everywhere.”
Here is our overnight story by Jessica Elgot and Pippa Crerar.
Here is the agenda for the day.
9.30am: Keir Starmer chairs cabinet.
11.30am: Rachel Reeves, chancellor, takes questions in the Commons.
Noon: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.
After 12.30pm: Liz Kendall, work and pensions secretary, opens the debate on the UC and Pip bill.
7pm: MPs vote on the bill.
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